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nav Does this look like JessM?, Saw this story, and it made me go hmmmm
JaneyBooboo    Posted: Nov-27-2006 3:40 PM
 
Saw this delicious story in TSG, and recognized the locale of the would be extortionist as "Nichols NY".....Then I saw reference to a 2001 Saab.....

http://www.gawker.com/news/craigslist/smok...time-217435.php

The picture looks awfully familiar. Am I dreaming? Or is this a nightmare??? And btw, who's the poor CEO this Jessica Wolcott tried to extort?

Jane



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hurricanesfans27    Posted:  Nov-27-2006 3:44 PM
 
wow that may just be her alright.


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alan    Posted: Nov-27-2006 3:46 PM
 
:lol:

Glad to see that someone's finally catching on.


It seems that Wolcott used some of the money ($9200) to buy a used car on eBay. She was the winning bidder in an April auction for a 2001 Saab convertible coupe, which she drove to New York from California, where the seller lived,



http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/1127061wolcott1.html


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hurricanesfans27    Posted:  Nov-27-2006 3:53 PM
 
maybe we should contact the feds and see whos SSN she used to impersonate her mother to get this loan from prosper. Im positive its a fake as well.


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msp1804    Posted: Nov-27-2006 3:56 PM
 
link please to her loan?
alan    Posted:  Nov-27-2006 3:56 PM
 
QUOTE (hurricanesfans27 @ Nov-27-2006 05:53 PM)
maybe we should contact the feds and see whos SSN she used to impersonate her mother to get this loan from prosper. Im positive its a fake as well.

Wolcott, who is free on bail, is scheduled to be sentenced in February on a felony count of interstate transmission of threats. As part of her plea, Wolcott has to forfeit the $125,000 in shakedown payments and an Apple laptop computer.


I would bet anything that she never shows up to do the time.



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alan    Posted: Nov-27-2006 3:57 PM
 
QUOTE (msp1804 @ Nov-27-2006 05:56 PM)
link please to her loan?


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hurricanesfans27    Posted:  Nov-27-2006 4:01 PM
 
Im reading the indictment right now but I dont see where she was sentenced to time.


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msp1804    Posted: Nov-27-2006 4:01 PM
 
her loan didnt fund though, correct?
alan    Posted:  Nov-27-2006 4:04 PM
 
QUOTE (msp1804 @ Nov-27-2006 06:01 PM)
her loan didnt fund though, correct?

Her "mom" borrowed $20,000.



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alan    Posted: Nov-27-2006 4:05 PM
 
Full docket text for document 4:
Appearance Bond Entered as to Jessica Wolcott in amount of $ $15,000.00 PRB, unsecured to be co-sihned by 1 FRP or her mother Debra Whitmore by October 11th, 2006. Travel is restricted from the NDNY-SDNY and must be approved from the court to travel outside restricted areas. Defendant is to seek employment or attend school. No passport application. Strict pretrial services supervision with curfew as directed by Pretrial Services. Defendant is to remain at her current address at 119 Providence St. Waverly,NY 14892. Defendant to participate in a mental health treatment. (cg, )


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hurricanesfans27    Posted:  Nov-27-2006 4:07 PM
 
QUOTE (alan @ Nov-27-2006 07:05 PM)
Full docket text for document 4:
Appearance Bond Entered as to Jessica Wolcott in amount of $ $15,000.00 PRB, unsecured to be co-sihned by 1 FRP or her mother Debra Whitmore by October 11th, 2006. Travel is restricted from the NDNY-SDNY and must be approved from the court to travel outside restricted areas. Defendant is to seek employment or attend school. No passport application. Strict pretrial services supervision with curfew as directed by Pretrial Services. Defendant is to remain at her current address at 119 Providence St. Waverly,NY 14892. Defendant to participate in a mental health treatment. (cg, )

15k bond? what a friggin joke.. 10% cash and shes out the door.


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msp1804    Posted: Nov-27-2006 4:07 PM
 
please link to her mom's listing
alan    Posted:  Nov-27-2006 4:09 PM
 

She had 119 ounces of gold on deposit at e-gold.

Guess she thought it would be safe there.


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alan    Posted: Nov-27-2006 4:10 PM
 
QUOTE (msp1804 @ Nov-27-2006 06:07 PM)
please link to her mom's listing


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Caladia    Posted:  Nov-27-2006 4:10 PM
 
QUOTE (msp1804 @ Nov-27-2006 07:07 PM)
please link to her mom's listing

https://www.prosper.com/public/lend/listing...listingID=16627

If you're interested, this was sort of an infamous loan back in the day. You can search the forums for discussions of "JessM" and "DebbieS."


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Urbi_et_Orbi    Posted: Nov-27-2006 4:11 PM
 
This is just incredible! Did anyone share the info with Anton yet?


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alan    Posted:  Nov-27-2006 4:12 PM
 
I have a feeling that the US Attorney will be getting a few more phone calls tomorrow.

:lol:


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msp1804    Posted: Nov-27-2006 4:12 PM
 
holy **** this is so exciting - nice pick up janeboon
Vas    Posted:  Nov-27-2006 4:15 PM
 
:P
hurricanesfans27    Posted: Nov-27-2006 4:17 PM
 
QUOTE (Vas @ Nov-27-2006 07:15 PM)
see her full name on page 12 of the docket.

got it and got the phone # how much you want to bet its not going to work.


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MsAvaLends    Posted:  Nov-27-2006 4:18 PM
 
Her loan didn't fund, what's the problem?


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msp1804    Posted: Nov-27-2006 4:19 PM
 
i couldnt find any previous threads discussing jessm or debbies - can you please link me a few of the threads -
Vas    Posted:  Nov-27-2006 4:19 PM
 
:D
alan    Posted: Nov-27-2006 4:20 PM
 
QUOTE (Vas @ Nov-27-2006 06:19 PM)
The point is, the middle name of the individual in question is Michelle.

I don't claim that this Jessica Michelle is the same JessM, only that there are some similiarities.

It's her.

Propser knows it's her.




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hurricanesfans27    Posted:  Nov-27-2006 4:21 PM
 
QUOTE (MsAvaLends @ Nov-27-2006 07:18 PM)
Her loan didn't fund, what's the problem?

her mothers did .. if in fact that was truly her mother


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Caladia    Posted: Nov-27-2006 4:21 PM
 
QUOTE (MsAvaLends @ Nov-27-2006 07:18 PM)
Her loan didn't fund, what's the problem?

Her mother got a loan for her. (Well, the borrower *said* she was her mother... could be that Jess stole an identity and came on here pretending to be her mother for all we know.) EDIT: That loan, with AA credit, is now Late, if I recall correctly.

FURTHER EDIT: It's current again. Could be that the mother really did take out a loan for her daughter, and is only now finding out how messed-up her daughter really is.


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MsAvaLends    Posted:  Nov-27-2006 4:22 PM
 
QUOTE (hurricanesfans27 @ Nov-27-2006 04:21 PM)
QUOTE (MsAvaLends @ Nov-27-2006 07:18 PM)
Her loan didn't fund, what's the problem?

her mothers did .. if in fact that was truly her mother

What's the mom's name, listing number?


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"Remember credit is money."
"I told TWO people about Prosper, did you?"
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Caladia    Posted: Nov-27-2006 4:22 PM
 
QUOTE (MsAvaLends @ Nov-27-2006 07:22 PM)
QUOTE (hurricanesfans27 @ Nov-27-2006 04:21 PM)
QUOTE (MsAvaLends @ Nov-27-2006 07:18 PM)
Her loan didn't fund, what's the problem?

her mothers did .. if in fact that was truly her mother

What's the mom's name, listing number?

MsAva, read a few posts up, I posted a link to the mom's loan.


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Caladia    Posted:  Nov-27-2006 4:24 PM
 
QUOTE (msp1804 @ Nov-27-2006 07:19 PM)
i couldnt find any previous threads discussing jessm or debbies - can you please link me a few of the threads -

When you do a search, be sure to set it to search all forums, and set the dates to "any date."

Here's one of the threads:
http://forums.prosper.com/index.php?showtopic=10050&hl=jessm


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hurricanesfans27    Posted: Nov-27-2006 4:24 PM
 
QUOTE (MsAvaLends @ Nov-27-2006 07:22 PM)
QUOTE (hurricanesfans27 @ Nov-27-2006 04:21 PM)
QUOTE (MsAvaLends @ Nov-27-2006 07:18 PM)
Her loan didn't fund, what's the problem?

her mothers did .. if in fact that was truly her mother

What's the mom's name, listing number?

not posting it here but the prefix is 565 :)


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alan    Posted:  Nov-27-2006 4:24 PM
 
PACER has the entire case online.

This is one messed up kid.



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hurricanesfans27    Posted: Nov-27-2006 4:25 PM
 
QUOTE (alan @ Nov-27-2006 07:24 PM)
PACER has the entire case online.

This is one messed up kid.

shes not a kid.. shes a crook and she took prosper for 20k


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alan    Posted:  Nov-27-2006 4:27 PM
 
She changed her plea to guilty last week, and will be sentenced in February.

She's going to get time.


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Urbi_et_Orbi    Posted: Nov-27-2006 4:27 PM
 
QUOTE (hurricanesfans27 @ Nov-27-2006 04:25 PM)
QUOTE (alan @ Nov-27-2006 07:24 PM)
PACER has the entire case online.

This is one messed up kid.

shes not a kid.. shes a crook and she took prosper for 20k

If I recall correctly, the bidders on this loan had been warned about JessM/DebS.


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alan    Posted:  Nov-27-2006 4:27 PM
 
QUOTE (hurricanesfans27 @ Nov-27-2006 06:25 PM)

shes not a kid.. shes a crook and she took prosper for 20k

How much you want to bet that her mom didn't even know her ID was being used for this?


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rissaroo    Posted: Nov-27-2006 4:30 PM
 
Not surprised, but speechless nonetheless......

as zarp said before "so much for Prosper's extra vetting"......

BTW, did anyone see that "mom" Deb recently changed her profile to respond to everyone's "attacks" and how they are frauds?



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MsAvaLends    Posted:  Nov-27-2006 4:30 PM
 
Wow oh wow! L5 is into that loan for 2 grand. I remember that stupid story about the incredibly long name! Same fireplace picture. Simply amazing.

Be Prosperous
Ms. Ava


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zarp_2000    Posted: Nov-27-2006 4:31 PM
 
QUOTE (Caladia @ Nov-27-2006 04:21 PM)
QUOTE (MsAvaLends @ Nov-27-2006 07:18 PM)
Her loan didn't fund, what's the problem?

Her mother got a loan for her. (Well, the borrower *said* she was her mother... could be that Jess stole an identity and came on here pretending to be her mother for all we know.) EDIT: That loan, with AA credit, is now Late, if I recall correctly.

actually, the borrower made current on the payments.

quite possibly the arrest might have made a change of bank accounts necessary (complete speculation on my part, but would make sense)


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How do I know the borrower is telling the truth if I don't know the borrower personally? How do I even know the borrower exists?
alan    Posted:  Nov-27-2006 4:34 PM
 
QUOTE (zarp_2000 @ Nov-27-2006 06:31 PM)

actually, the borrower made current on the payments.

quite possibly the arrest might have made a change of bank accounts necessary (complete speculation on my part, but would make sense)

Kinda get the feeling that Anton will soon be wishing that he had taken the whole $20,000 of that loan.


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Caladia    Posted: Nov-27-2006 4:35 PM
 
QUOTE (zarp_2000 @ Nov-27-2006 07:31 PM)
QUOTE (Caladia @ Nov-27-2006 04:21 PM)
QUOTE (MsAvaLends @ Nov-27-2006 07:18 PM)
Her loan didn't fund, what's the problem?

Her mother got a loan for her. (Well, the borrower *said* she was her mother... could be that Jess stole an identity and came on here pretending to be her mother for all we know.) EDIT: That loan, with AA credit, is now Late, if I recall correctly.

actually, the borrower made current on the payments.

quite possibly the arrest might have made a change of bank accounts necessary (complete speculation on my part, but would make sense)

Ah. Sad if the mom really did take out a loan for her, and is now posting bail... imagine finding out your darling daughter is a grifter.


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hurricanesfans27    Posted:  Nov-27-2006 4:35 PM
 
the only thing about that loan is momma is now making the payment because she could be in the jackpot if the loan goes south.


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joezyz    Posted: Nov-27-2006 4:35 PM
 
Alan,
What is JessM's "Real" first name, from the court papers?
I dont have a link to the court paperwork.

From her mom:
"Please note I do not call my daughter Jessica, I call her Kay as it is short for her original long name. "

Remember the American Indian name posts?

-Joe
MsAvaLends    Posted:  Nov-27-2006 4:37 PM
 
The mother could be a good person with a rotten kid, especially since the loan was brought current.

Be Prosperous
Ms. Ava


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Urbi_et_Orbi    Posted: Nov-27-2006 4:37 PM
 
Those of you who were around back then will recall that Alan took a lot of sh*t from the forum community for his investigative work on this loan.

He is the reason why I didn't bid on this - and I am thankful.


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DebInVenice    Posted:  Nov-27-2006 4:37 PM
 
A couple of ProsperMonkey Links:

7 pages, get some popcorn and something to drink:
http://prosper.spreebb.com/index.php?showtopic=2697&hl=16627

4 pages, the loan is late
http://forums.prosper.com/index.php?showtopic=10050


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alan    Posted: Nov-27-2006 4:38 PM
 
QUOTE (joezyz @ Nov-27-2006 06:35 PM)
Alan,
What is JessM's "Real" first name, from the court papers?
I dont have a link to the court paperwork.

From her mom:
"Please note I do not call my daughter Jessica, I call her Kay as it is short for her original long name. "

Remember the American Indian name posts?

-Joe

Her real name, according to PACER, is Jessica Michelle Walcott.


Obviously, the Native American name thing was a scam.

Remember when she claimed that she didn't have a SS number? :lol:


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zarp_2000    Posted:  Nov-27-2006 4:39 PM
 
QUOTE (alan @ Nov-27-2006 04:34 PM)

Kinda get the feeling that Anton will soon be wishing that he had taken the whole $20,000 of that loan.

I wish Anton had taken all of it. I know L5 wishes the same thing.

The sad part is that even if the loan stays to term, Prosper is still going to get negative press about it. I mean this story makes Prosper look like a place for con artists to get funded.



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How do I know the borrower is telling the truth if I don't know the borrower personally? How do I even know the borrower exists?
Urbi_et_Orbi    Posted: Nov-27-2006 4:39 PM
 
QUOTE (Caladia @ Nov-27-2006 04:35 PM)
Ah. Sad if the mom really did take out a loan for her, and is now posting bail... imagine finding out your darling daughter is a grifter.

Allegedly, JessM was a jet-setting model with multiple residences. Turns out she's an expensive hooker/gold-digger/nightmare.


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alan    Posted:  Nov-27-2006 4:39 PM
 
QUOTE (Urbi_et_Orbi @ Nov-27-2006 06:37 PM)
Those of you who were around back then will recall that Alan took a lot of sh*t from the forum community for his investigative work on this loan.

He is the reason why I didn't bid on this - and I am thankful.

Nothing like being right for the wrong reasons :)

I knew she was a con artist, I didn't know it was on this scale.

I bet there's a dozen othr married guys out there who have paid her off.


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